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That dude's hovering right there.

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There's something going on out here.

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What in the world? There's no sign of struggle.

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Mankind doesn't know how to do that.

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You all may have the first consistent data

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here at the Skinwalker Ranch.

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We're dealing with something that doesn't want us to understand.

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The cow is right here.

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I can't help but also notice that there's something happening here.

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The cow reacted the moment that that object appeared.

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There is a ranch in northern Utah.

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It is considered the epicenter of the strangest

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and most disturbing phenomena on Earth.

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Animal mutilations,

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bizarre UFO sightings,

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and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans.

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For 20 years, the federal government tried to find answers

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and failed.

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Now, a new team of dedicated scientists,

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researchers, and experts has taken over.

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They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal

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It's just a real mystery.

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So here, you can see she starts to get up.

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The cow is trying to get up on her feet.

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The object is here.

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The cow reacted the moment that that object appeared

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above the cow.

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The cow was reacting.

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Yesterday on the ranch, we found that a two-year-old cow

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just suddenly died and for no apparent reason.

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Jim, have you seen anything on the Spectre Matalizer?

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to determine the cause of death,

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but his findings only served to confirm our suspicions

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that something really out of the ordinary

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must have happened to him.

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I just want to verify something,

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that the animal was going about her business, doing her thing,

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got stressed by something,

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then lowered her immune system,

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which allowed pneumonia to set in.

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actually captured the moment that the cow died.

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something that appears to be a UFO

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in the sky directly overhead.

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And I'm going to go single-stepping one frame at a time.

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It actually popped.

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It says that 1-1-1 of a second video.

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it moves 75 feet in a 15th of a second.

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Not 1,000 feet per second. I have no idea what that is.

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that the Navy has.

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Cool, I think, dude.

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to look at unknown aerial phenomena, UFOs.

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Oh, my gosh, dude. Wow.

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that we don't know of.

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that told us that it was cold and the craft was warm.

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was an interesting object just over the mesa.

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something that I believe is caused by a temperature differential.

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but here's the thing.

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that level of technology so far advanced

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that's real hard to swallow.

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and has influence on the brain of that cop?

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it was left behind all the herd.

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in its environment at the very end,

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and it's enough of a reaction that it's making

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a deathly ill cow want to move.

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that correlation isn't causation.

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occurring at exactly the same time,

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very near the same spatial location.

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can we prove the cow moved because of that thing?

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at just the same time this cow is dying its last breath.

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we're measuring all these weird electromagnetic signals.

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We're out in the middle of nowhere.

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these type of phenomena attend cattle mutilations

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and other events?

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The sudden separation of a herd that goes completely as far

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leaving the animal that is found mutilated,

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that's happened many, many times.

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that maybe we're going to get some more data

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is because of the work you're doing.

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So, hooray, you guys keep doing this

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because this is maybe the only way we're really going to learn

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some of the truth that has been hidden.

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I think we're just starting to pull back the curtain

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with our investigation here at Skinwalker Ranch.

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It's good to see everybody.

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Yeah, man, I missed you guys.

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After being out there with you all for so long,

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it was strange going home, right?

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And I kept looking over my shoulder for crazy stuff to happen.

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Brandon has instructed Tom, Eric, and the team

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to continue their surveillance of all the activities on the ranch.

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we decided to put a pause on experimentation out there,

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at least until we've had a chance to get to the bottom of it.

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And we're going to be back out there,

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at least until we've had a chance to analyze all the data

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that we collected over the summer.

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Hey, how's it going?

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Good to see you again.

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Good to see you too, sir.

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Travis Taylor.

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Mr. Taylor, pleased to meet you.

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Attorney General Reyes has been briefed over the course

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of the last several years,

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and he's been very well aware and kept up on the events

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that have occurred on property with you.

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He's been very important today at his request

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for him to be briefed on some of the more disturbing

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out on the property.

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Appreciate your time.

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Glad you're here.

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Thanks very much.

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The fact that our activities at Skinwalker Ranch

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have married the attention of the state's Attorney General

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shows me how seriously the state of Utah

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is taking everything that we're doing out there.

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I mean, let's face it,

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just some of our suspicions turn out to be correct.

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The national security implications could be huge.

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Thanks very much.

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Brandon's been keeping me updated

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because you all shepherd the public now

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in a much more visible way into the exploration

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of what a Skinwalker Ranch represents.

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And on behalf of the citizens of the state of Utah,

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I think it'd be important that this isn't viewed as just,

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you know, this mysterious project that these outsiders

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These are important issues for our state.

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I'm happy to be part of it.

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I'm honored that you all would brief me

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and let me participate.

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So thank you all, each and every one of you.

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Appreciate it.

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You know, as we come back together after a month,

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I thought it was important to evaluate the events

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Yeah.

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Because now you have hard data that helps us hopefully

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understand what does it play at Skinwalker Ranch.

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Right.

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There's so many points.

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There are very good, important points for us to discuss.

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And really sifting information, trying to understand,

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you know, what is significant, what may just be coincidental.

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And also if there are connections, what are they?

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What have you taken from the events that have occurred

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over the last few months?

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Well, let's take this recent disturbing incident

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with the cow.

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The cow died, and we have at the time of it dying

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measured strange microwave activity.

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He was getting gammas.

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Yeah.

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And microwaves.

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Hey, y'all.

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I'd recommend not to touch it till we see if it's radioactive

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or not.

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No sign of trauma.

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What in the world?

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There's no cat tracks.

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There's no sign of struggle.

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Middle of the day.

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It's just dead.

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Jim, are you seeing anything on the spectrum analyzer?

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So I'm getting some pretty high spikes.

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Oh, wow.

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Look at the meters just going crazy.

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My phone starts freaking out whenever your tri-field goes off.

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I don't have any control over my phone right now.

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Dude, look at that.

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We had an actual autopsy done by a veterinarian,

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a local veterinarian.

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And what they found out was that it died of pneumonia

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brought on by stress.

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What we did record is we did record some anomalous object

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in the sky above the cow before it died

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that it was reacting to.

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So you have biosensor in essence that reacted immediately

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to the event.

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Absolutely.

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Something that scared it to death.

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That's a really good way to put it.

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Something that scared it to death.

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It gets even stranger because after this cow died,

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we do what most ranchers do,

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and you drag it off to a corner,

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and you let the body decompose.

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And let the scavengers have the body.

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Yeah, and the typical thing is the coyotes and the scavengers

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come in and they pick it clean.

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I was just up there a week ago on a patrol,

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and I went over there where that cow's at,

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and it has not been touched.

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To this day, not a single scavenger has touched that cow.

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Highly irregular.

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One of my graduate students grew up working on a cattle farm

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in Alabama, and he told me that if lightning ever struck

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one of the cows, that the predators would not eat it.

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Maybe something happened to this cow.

329
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We know it wasn't struck by lightning because there was

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no storms at the time, but we did measure really high

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microwaves, and maybe whatever these signals are is affecting

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this cow in such a way that it tainted it.

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And it's still sitting there.

334
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No, nothing has touched it.

335
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So there's something to that.

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And there was another day where we were launching rockets,

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for example, when suddenly we see so many phenomena

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across so many different regimes of measurement.

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While we were launching these rockets,

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the entire herd of about 40 cows come over to the area

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where we are.

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You might think that they would be frightened of our activity.

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You'd think they'd go away from us.

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Instead, during that activity, we watched the cattle come

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to the east field.

346
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They ran.

347
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Well, that was exactly the point.

348
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And some of them behaved as if they were in a panic.

349
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It was nearly stampeding behavior.

350
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Yeah.

351
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Look at the cows.

352
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That is the strangest thing.

353
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I've never seen that before.

354
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They all grouped together so tight they started fighting.

355
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They started to fight among each other,

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headbutting each other.

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They were moving.

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I thought they were going to take down the east fence.

359
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Something that gave them more concern than the sound

360
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of the rockets.

361
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And it's at the same time that the unidentified aerial

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phenomena start appearing in the sky.

363
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Really?

364
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Ignition.

365
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What is that?

366
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We got something.

367
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Hold on.

368
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Wait, wait.

369
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It's a plane, I think.

370
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No, that wasn't a plane.

371
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Oh, there it is again.

372
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There it is again.

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It's gone.

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It's one thing to have a light in the night

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or some random sighting,

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but when livestock start to literally fall over,

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not unheard of to have them die from time to time,

378
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but not under these kinds of circumstances,

379
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not with this many questions,

380
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or are bigger concern beyond livestock

381
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when this starts to potentially impact human beings.

382
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Yes.

383
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You found out firsthand, surprisingly,

384
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how dangerous this ranch can be.

385
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Absolutely.

386
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While we were out there, we were in a cave,

387
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and I was exposed to something that made me

388
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nearly pass out.

389
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Let me ask you a question, guys.

390
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Do any of y'all feel it swimming headed at all?

391
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You feeling it?

392
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I don't know.

393
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Slightly, I felt like I was not holding my balance well

394
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for a second there,

395
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so I put my hand over on the rock,

396
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and I'm feeling it now, too.

397
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And then a few days later,

398
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I was exposed to a fairly high dose of gamma ray radiation.

399
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That could be a ton of entrance for all we know.

400
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I'd like to know what's in this thing.

401
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Don't lift it up.

402
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I feel like I've got a little bit of a headache

403
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or something happening.

404
00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,000
Holy crap, mine's beeping.

405
00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,000
Your total dose is way up there.

406
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We were just exposed to ionizing radiation.

407
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So did you end up going to the hospital

408
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as a result of this?

409
00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,000
Yes, injuries.

410
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I had surgery as a result of those injuries.

411
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Maybe a week, maybe two weeks at most,

412
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after I got exposed to the radiation,

413
00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,000
I started getting a knot forming here,

414
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a bump coming out of my knuckle there.

415
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And then another bump started forming,

416
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and on into the summer,

417
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it kept getting bigger and bigger and started hurting.

418
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Yeah?

419
00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,000
That's nasty, man.

420
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So then I went ahead and had it x-rayed,

421
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and my doctor looked at it, and he says,

422
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well, you've got two bone spurs in there.

423
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They said, well, you're going to get a bone spurs.

424
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Because it's going to keep getting bigger and worse.

425
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And so they went in, and they took out a cyst

426
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that was almost as big as an M&M.

427
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There were like 18 stitches in there.

428
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Mm, that's a real...

429
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And it still feels like it's a broken finger.

430
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It's still a little bit painful,

431
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but it's healing fine.

432
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Wow.

433
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I believe that whatever this phenomena is

434
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that we've measured, every time we've measured it,

435
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we do get high energy levels and microwaves,

436
00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,000
and we do get high energy levels and microwaves.

437
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And we do get high energy levels and microwaves.

438
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And we've measured gamma rays.

439
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And so it's possible that whatever this is that's occurring

440
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is what's causing the injuries.

441
00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,000
But you're not the only one, right?

442
00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,000
No, there's...

443
00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,000
Winnerton had a...

444
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,000
A serious one, yeah.

445
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I know, at least for my injury,

446
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,000
and if I'm under the correct understanding

447
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of some of the other injuries,

448
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they couldn't explain it away.

449
00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,000
That's what...

450
00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,000
That's what the particular one you could...

451
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They never came to conclusion of what caused it,

452
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and they couldn't find what it was.

453
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Right?

454
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,000
Yeah.

455
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Well, to your point, Thomas, too,

456
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when you talk about ranching injuries,

457
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we're not talking about broken bones and smashed hands.

458
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We're talking about radiation exposure.

459
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The injuries that Tom Winnerton experienced

460
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back two years ago were of the nature

461
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that he had a neurological episode

462
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and he had a big swelling in the back of his head.

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And his injuries was consistent with a radiation beam

464
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,000
that entered his body from a specific angle

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back behind his head.

466
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So Thomas' injury really reinforces

467
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that this ranch could be very dangerous.

468
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And somehow, all of this is coupled.

469
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We just don't know how.

470
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,000
Yeah.

471
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,000
Obviously, we're experiencing things

472
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,000
of a subjective nature.

473
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,000
Something in our physiology is responding

474
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,000
to something on the property,

475
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,000
but we also see devices of many different kinds

476
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,000
malfunctioning on the ranch.

477
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,000
We're talking about the disruption

478
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of a handheld or a mobile device.

479
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,000
Like the phones, right?

480
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,000
My phone's freaking out.

481
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,000
It's just been doing this for the last, you know,

482
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couple minutes and it just ran up here so you could see it.

483
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It was in my contacts.

484
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,000
It tried calling a couple people

485
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and then it's been messing around in my camera.

486
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,000
Dude, that is crazy.

487
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,000
We are continuously dealing with some kind of interference

488
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,000
that takes our systems down.

489
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And it's not one type of device.

490
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,000
It's many kinds of devices.

491
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Right.

492
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,000
You know, very often batteries are discharged.

493
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,000
Yeah.

494
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,000
Or things don't work correctly.

495
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,000
Yeah.

496
00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,000
Oh, my gosh.

497
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:03,000
I completely charged these four batteries last evening

498
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,000
and now they're into the yellow section.

499
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,000
When have you seen that before?

500
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,000
I quite frankly have not seen that before.

501
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,000
You name it, if it had electronics in it,

502
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,000
it would have somehow or other it malfunctioned

503
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,000
while we were out there this summer.

504
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,000
It either turned itself off.

505
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,000
It just wouldn't function.

506
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,000
It's electronic control software didn't work.

507
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,000
We had drones that worked fine one second

508
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,000
and then move it 10 feet over and it wouldn't work at all.

509
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,000
All right, let's do this.

510
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,000
No connection.

511
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,000
Huh.

512
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,000
That's weird.

513
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,000
I'm not connecting to the remote.

514
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,000
I don't know what's happening with it.

515
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,000
I don't know.

516
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,000
I don't think this is a coincidence.

517
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,000
I think what happened is that because we were all there,

518
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,000
we were concentrated, we were doing experiments

519
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,000
on a daily basis.

520
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,000
Because it's going nuts.

521
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,000
It's coming from up there.

522
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,000
And we were doing lots of experiments

523
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,000
that no one has ever really done on the ranch.

524
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,000
Oh, you see that?

525
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,000
Look, look, look.

526
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,000
That caused the entity, the phenomena,

527
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,000
whatever you want to call it,

528
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,000
to actually show itself on a more frequent basis.

529
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,000
That's a definite beam.

530
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,000
It is clearly a beam going across there.

531
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,000
What we're seeing might not just be the reactions

532
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,000
of the phenomena.

533
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,000
The phenomena might actually be trying to tell us something

534
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,000
or show us something or lead us to something.

535
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:31,000
As you've seen unidentified aerial phenomena appear simultaneous

536
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:36,000
with other events, does that constitute contact?

537
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,000
So we didn't, as far as I can tell,

538
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,000
try and talk back to them,

539
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but we don't know that we didn't.

540
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,000
We were launching rockets, for example,

541
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,000
when a lot of them appeared over us.

542
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,000
Right.

543
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,000
Yeah.

544
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,000
After having a month to reflect on all the things we did,

545
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,000
the one thing that I just can't seem to quit thinking about really

546
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,000
is while we were launching those rockets,

547
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,000
we had all these experiences.

548
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,000
We saw all these UFOs appearing in the sky.

549
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,000
Look, look, look.

550
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,000
What is that?

551
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,000
And we measured with all these instruments.

552
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,000
I wonder, were we communicating with whatever this phenomena is

553
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,000
by launching these rockets and it said,

554
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,000
hey, we're here and they said, hey, back.

555
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,000
Oh, there it is.

556
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,000
There it is again.

557
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,000
It's still in the same spot.

558
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,000
There's some communication possibly taking place

559
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,000
in response to the experiments that you launched.

560
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,000
Right.

561
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:32,000
And also, if there are connections, what are they?

562
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,000
Are we intelligent enough?

563
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,000
Are we intuitive enough, perhaps,

564
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,000
to understand if, in fact, we're being communicated with?

565
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,000
Yep.

566
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:45,000
Do any of the things that we've observed constitute communication?

567
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:51,000
Well, there's absolutely no disputing the fact that we launched rockets.

568
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,000
Phenomena occurred.

569
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,000
I mean, within seconds and minutes of each other.

570
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,000
It would be interesting to say it's just serendipitous,

571
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:07,000
but never before on the ranch have you guys reported this much activity at one time.

572
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,000
None to this level.

573
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,000
It's unexplainable.

574
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,000
Yep.

575
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,000
We've never had physical evidence that we actually saw with our own eyes.

576
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:21,000
We've never had recorded, electronically recorded data that we took with instruments.

577
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,000
I mean, this is amazing.

578
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,000
Yeah.

579
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,000
And for those of us who look at a lot of evidence, that's the most credible type of evidence.

580
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,000
The stuff that's happening right in front of your eyes, right?

581
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:35,000
No chance for someone's memory to fade or to distort.

582
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,000
So that's impressive.

583
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:42,000
So what it tells us is, beyond a shadow of a doubt, there is some phenomena occurring,

584
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,000
and we have measured the phenomena.

585
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,000
The phenomena is real.

586
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,000
Now the question is, what is this phenomenon?

587
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,000
Fascinating.

588
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:56,000
So, technologically, now we've advanced this whole thing, very, very high to high level,

589
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,000
which means that we can take the next level.

590
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,000
Right.

591
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,000
Why can't we communicate with them?

592
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,000
So now that brings up all these moral issues that falls on your shoulders.

593
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:09,000
Whatever these are, are saying, hey, do we have permission to say hi back?

594
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,000
Yeah.

595
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,000
There are government agencies and divisions for interactions.

596
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,000
We had them when we flew to the moon.

597
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:21,000
We had to prepare, just in case, even in a one in a million chance that we made first contact,

598
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,000
how do we interact?

599
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,000
Who's going to interact?

600
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,000
What's the message?

601
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,000
Yeah.

602
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,000
What are the protocols?

603
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,000
Yeah, that's right.

604
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,000
That's it, exactly.

605
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,000
Right.

606
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,000
Maybe that's what we do is just follow what's in that particular guidance.

607
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,000
Yeah.

608
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,000
Right.

609
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:46,000
You know, as I've been listening, my head is swimming with ideas about what it all means.

610
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,000
Do you have something you'd like to share and illustrate for us?

611
00:25:50,000 --> 00:26:05,000
I do have something if we're ready for that.

612
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:11,000
Recently, I've been preparing, I guess we'll call it a model, prompted by measurements of

613
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,000
RF, in particular, microwave frequencies.

614
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,000
We've observed this summer.

615
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:22,500
For example, if there were a source projecting energy downwards towards the ground, then what

616
00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:27,000
we see in the model represents how it would be reflected by the terrain into the space

617
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,000
above.

618
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:33,000
One of our theories is that the Uinti basin looks like a very large radio antenna.

619
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,000
It's a dish, because it's shaped parabolically.

620
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,000
Right.

621
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,120
And so if that's the case, whatever these weird signals we're seeing, they're bouncing off

622
00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:45,720
of it and being focused to somewhere, just like a dish focuses the energy.

623
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:50,720
So, Attorney General Riz, what we're doing is we're fleshing out a hypothesis.

624
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,200
We have some measurements.

625
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:58,480
We have some data that are very suggestive that maybe what Travis just described is relevant

626
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,800
somehow to what's going on.

627
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,480
And so to visualize that problem, I decided to build this model.

628
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:10,560
So what I'd like to do is to share some of the results of the modeling.

629
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:17,280
So the data that we use to build this model comes from the United States Geologic Survey.

630
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,840
This is terrain data that tells us what the lay of the land is.

631
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,980
We plug that into the model and then turn it into a reflector.

632
00:27:24,980 --> 00:27:28,480
So we should all recognize this geography.

633
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,480
Wow.

634
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:37,480
So we're going to focus on the things that may happen that intersect with the ranch property.

635
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,800
We are located where you see that graphic.

636
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,440
Right, almost dead center.

637
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:44,440
Yes.

638
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:53,480
So what I did was construct a 60,000 square kilometer mirror and then producing a line

639
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:59,040
of what you just described as radiation coming down from above.

640
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:06,240
So we're going to look at how those rays interact with and reflect from this surface, which

641
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,600
is what this next visual shows us.

642
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:09,600
Wow.

643
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,240
These little waves.

644
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:17,520
This represents measurements of microwave frequencies that we had in the summer.

645
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:23,360
We are looking at parallel rays of energy coming down from above, primarily for long

646
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:27,320
wavelengths, not necessarily visible light.

647
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:28,320
Incredible.

648
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,320
Yeah, it's really cool.

649
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:34,280
If you look at the ones right in the center, they're being focused.

650
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:39,040
And the ones at the edge, you can see there is a significant focus where these things

651
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:44,520
are being brought to a point and there's a big concentration of energy up here somewhere.

652
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,360
If you think about it, that is amazing.

653
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,040
Eric, this is so cool.

654
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,040
Impressive.

655
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,800
Based on Eric's visualization, I believe that the U.N.

656
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:58,400
Tobacin could be acting almost like a satellite dish, one that both collects and directs energy

657
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,160
from somewhere out in space.

658
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,040
Big question.

659
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,400
What could be causing this energy?

660
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,400
That's the big question.

661
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,040
That is the question of the day.

662
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,160
So there's two possibilities.

663
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,240
Right now we're thinking, okay, it's a reflective dish.

664
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,800
And so maybe the energy's coming from space and it hits and it's being focused up.

665
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:25,280
Or the other possibility is this could be acting like a lens and not just a dish.

666
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:30,400
The source could be down here inside the earth and coming up through it and focusing.

667
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,720
But to what end we don't know and we've got to come up with other measurements to figure

668
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,400
out where the energy's coming from.

669
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,240
So we've had the debate of whether it's below the earth or coming from above.

670
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,480
I mean, it could be a combination of the two.

671
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,480
Absolutely.

672
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:46,480
I agree.

673
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:47,480
I agree 100%.

674
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:48,480
There's a source and a destination.

675
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:49,480
Were there, you know...

676
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,360
Yeah, one of them is there's a source and to what end we've got to find out where they're

677
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:54,360
coming from.

678
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,360
Yeah.

679
00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:01,240
Now this also reminds me of something that what I found kind of troubling during the

680
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,080
summer.

681
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:11,400
You recall you did an exercise where you seemingly located a source, a concentration of signals

682
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,200
fairly low.

683
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,200
At about 5,000 feet.

684
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,720
And I was just thinking about that.

685
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:16,720
Right.

686
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,880
And could you point in the vicinity of where you think that was?

687
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:20,880
Yeah.

688
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,720
So right in here you can see there is some convergence right there.

689
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:30,640
There was a local focus and we launched a weather balloon with radio frequency and microwave

690
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:31,840
instruments on it.

691
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,280
And when it got to about that height, the instrument started failing.

692
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,280
You guys ready?

693
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,280
Yep.

694
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,280
Good to go.

695
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,280
All right, here we go.

696
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,280
All right, slowly let it up.

697
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,280
All right, keep going.

698
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,280
You're good.

699
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,080
Okay, we're clear.

700
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,080
All right.

701
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,080
Man, that's a big balloon.

702
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,080
Yeah, ain't that cool?

703
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,440
Man, that's a long ways up.

704
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,440
Heck yeah.

705
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:59,360
But it failed right there, which suggests maybe the power was so high that it burned

706
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,080
out the instruments.

707
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,000
Wow.

708
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,360
And whether it's just bad luck or not, we never recovered the balloon either.

709
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,360
Interesting.

710
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,360
You never recovered the balloon?

711
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,360
No.

712
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,360
And we had GPS trackers on it.

713
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,360
So you lost it when it hit that point.

714
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,240
All of the instruments failed.

715
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,240
All the other instruments failed.

716
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,240
What?

717
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:21,440
Wow.

718
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:29,440
You know, it's really intriguing and actually kind of startling a little bit is I've been

719
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:35,120
contacted by some folks in the intelligence community that are really interested in what

720
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,600
we've found.

721
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,080
So is it they approached you?

722
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,320
How have they heard about?

723
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,920
They approached us.

724
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:43,920
Wow.

725
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:44,920
So we're being monitored.

726
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:45,420
Yep.

727
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:58,440
So we're being monitored.

728
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,920
There are people interested in what we're doing.

729
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,400
I find that really intriguing.

730
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,400
They're going to tell us something.

731
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:08,080
I don't know what, but my suspicion is they've measured a similar phenomenon, don't know

732
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,600
what it is, and they want to compare notes.

733
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,080
And I find that really intriguing.

734
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,640
It's a very strange.

735
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:22,240
So what this tells us though is there are real government organizations who are interested

736
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,480
in this phenomena and are taking it seriously.

737
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,040
Wow.

738
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,320
After being contacted by representatives of the government, including some folks in the

739
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,600
intelligence community, it was clear to me that someone had been following our progress

740
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:37,600
on the range.

741
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:38,600
Look at that.

742
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:39,600
What is that?

743
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,600
There's a helicopter right up there.

744
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:42,600
Yeah, sure is.

745
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:43,600
You can hear it.

746
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,440
I think it's hovering right there.

747
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,640
I think somebody's watching us right now.

748
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:49,960
That's exactly what it looks like.

749
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,760
I think they're watching us, guys.

750
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,680
So guys, I'm going to try to go in and look at the transponder data, see if I can figure

751
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:56,680
out who it is.

752
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,280
Yeah, that's a good idea, Eric.

753
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,280
They should by law.

754
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,280
Right?

755
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,280
Be transponding.

756
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,280
What we got, Eric?

757
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,240
They didn't show up at all.

758
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,200
So do you have a fear that there's a possibility of them shutting us down or?

759
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:13,200
No.

760
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,200
I think so.

761
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,080
I think it's more they're going to encourage us to go in a direction.

762
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,160
But do they want the world to know what's happening?

763
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,280
They won't tell anybody.

764
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,680
They may not, but I doubt they will acknowledge it.

765
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,680
They ever had the meeting with us, but they will know what we know at that point.

766
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:36,480
The fact that we're being monitored, that our efforts have received a higher level of

767
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:42,720
attention and awareness within those channels, I think speaks to the reality of this ranch.

768
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:43,720
I agree.

769
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,560
I agree 100%.

770
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:51,840
As we have obtained all of this data and evidence, I think now it is our responsibility to take

771
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:52,840
this forward.

772
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:58,720
But I'd like to hear from the team, what do we need to implement that will help us advance

773
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,360
this research to the next level?

774
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:07,360
So naturally, I'm interested in increasing our instrumentation bandwidth, our virtual

775
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,360
presence on the property.

776
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:14,200
We can't always be present at the same time I have a feeling, more than a feeling.

777
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,880
I have the data that suggests that there are things taking place all the time that are

778
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,240
part of this puzzle, and we want to collect as much of that as possible.

779
00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:24,040
That's a great idea.

780
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:31,200
So another experiment that we really should do also is that we should design and construct

781
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:39,360
a very good small satellite platform that we could get launched as a secondary payload

782
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,360
pretty much for free.

783
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,520
NASA has projects, especially we involve a university that will launch it for you for

784
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:44,520
free.

785
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:45,520
You don't have to pay to get it launched.

786
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,080
And we would put it in an orbit that goes over the ranch.

787
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,920
Wow.

788
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,400
And so that we would continually get data from it.

789
00:34:55,400 --> 00:35:02,800
I want to try and reproduce stimulating the phenomena, like the rocket test day where

790
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:08,960
we're doing measurements with the rockets and then suddenly we see so many phenomena.

791
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,280
I want to see if we can reproduce that.

792
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:16,280
Thomas has said before, maybe the ranch gets immune to it and we have to bring it up a

793
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,280
notch each time.

794
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:23,200
You know, do we do twice as many rockets the next time or do we do one bigger rocket?

795
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,880
That is something we should really look at.

796
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,080
Right.

797
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,720
So what I would propose, I think that it's important that we have a medical program

798
00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:35,760
with protocols in place before anybody steps back on that ranch in a significant way.

799
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:41,320
Yeah, health and safety is going to be important, especially given the fact that Tom and Travis

800
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:47,640
both went to the hospital as a result of the activities of the last few months.

801
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:53,240
It would have been great to have had my vitals and all that being recorded when the dosimeter

802
00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:55,800
went off and said I was exposed to radiation.

803
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,720
There is something going on that seems to emanate from the ground.

804
00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:01,840
How can we learn more about it?

805
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,000
So I want to know how could we get a really deep core sample?

806
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,360
Like, can we dig really, really, really deep?

807
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,400
How do you feel about doing that digging or would you want to hire somebody?

808
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:18,440
Because even when we did the core drilling, you know, you chose to position yourself away

809
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,360
and you're the one that has suffered the ramifications of the digging.

810
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,280
And this goes way back to what we talked about when we first began this exercise.

811
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,080
I don't want to put you in harm's way.

812
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,880
How do you feel about doing that digging?

813
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,440
I don't want to put you in harm's way.

814
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,680
I don't want you to feel like you're pushed into that.

815
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,360
Well, the points that we identified are not that deep.

816
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,840
They're not that far down.

817
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,560
15, 20 feet is not a big deal.

818
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,600
I'm just going to wear my tin foil hard hat.

819
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:03,520
I do have a lot of people around me that think without a doubt my injury was tied to the digging.

820
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,960
Well, it's not conclusive that it was the digging.

821
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,960
So that's why there's part of me that said, yeah, I would.

822
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,880
I'd just be very cautious.

823
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,440
I have a question for you guys, though.

824
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,160
For the first time since you've owned the ranch,

825
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,440
this is the largest group of people to be on that ranch.

826
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:25,280
And I know you were giving me a hard time at the beginning because you said it's almost like

827
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,360
you guys talk as if this ranch has a personality because we talked about how

828
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,360
when you introduce somebody new, the ranch responds.

829
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:33,480
Yeah, it's not a person.

830
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,480
It's not an entity, but it responded.

831
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:38,760
Yeah.

832
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:43,800
I have to tell you guys, when Brandon first invited me in the first day I came in here,

833
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:50,240
I honestly didn't know what to expect, but I didn't think you guys were really onto what you were onto.

834
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:55,920
Because I don't believe 99% of the things that people claim they've seen.

835
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:56,720
Right?

836
00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:02,120
I think this is in that 1% of the unexplainable weirdness, the what is it?

837
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:12,160
And now we've got indisputable evidence that there is a real phenomena that's happening that is unexplainable.

838
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,640
Whatever you want to call it, high strangeness, it's real and it's there.

839
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,600
And I think the ramifications of it is world changing.

840
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:21,560
Agreed.

841
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,720
And I'll tell you what I told you when we started on this adventure.

842
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:31,280
I truly believe now more than ever, if this ranch can help us better understand the nature of the universe

843
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:38,760
and perhaps confirm that we're not alone, this will indeed be the greatest science project

844
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,480
and endeavor of all time.

845
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:48,000
And as we move forward and take next steps, we appreciate you coming in and spending the time.

846
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,960
You have my personal interest, Brandon, and I just want to make sure you all understand.

847
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,200
I take this very seriously.

848
00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:01,880
And so as you all continue to validate, replicate and investigate even more,

849
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:09,240
I'm anxious to see what the next step brings and I think that only helps the entire state.

850
00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:10,600
So thanks very much.

851
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:11,760
Thank you very much.

852
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,480
We appreciate that endorsement.

853
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:14,160
Thank you.

854
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,800
We'll continue to keep you informed as to what we continue to observe

855
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,080
and ultimately what we discover as we move forward.

856
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,200
Let's go.

857
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:24,080
Thank you gentlemen.

858
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:24,600
Great.

859
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:25,720
Looking forward to it.

860
00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:30,880
Given the extraordinary events that have been observed and recorded over the last several months,

861
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:37,960
I believe that we have a responsibility to take this forward in a more aggressive fashion.

862
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,960
It's not a matter of if something is going to happen.

863
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:47,960
It's a matter of when that will happen and if we are truly prepared.

864
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:48,960
There it is.

865
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:49,960
There it is again.

866
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:50,960
It is clearly a beam.

867
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:51,960
This was an amazing summer.

868
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:52,960
Ignition.

869
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,960
I think the pinnacle was that we actually saw UFOs.

870
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:57,960
Look, look, look.

871
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:58,960
What is that?

872
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,960
Now that we know exactly what they look like in the sky, we can start tracking these things.

873
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,960
We can actually set up a system that can communicate with them in some regard

874
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,960
by sending them signals to see if they respond.

875
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:11,960
There it is again.

876
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:17,960
That would be the next step in this evolution of trying to figure out what they're doing here

877
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,960
and why they picked this ranch or this area to do it.

878
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,960
When I first came to the ranch, I was kind of an agnostic when it came to the place.

879
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,960
It's not that I didn't believe that things were happening,

880
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,960
but they sounded pretty amazing and outlandish to me.

881
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,960
Oh, up right here, up right there.

882
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:35,960
That's it.

883
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:40,960
But after experiencing what I did this summer, there's no doubt in my mind that there's a phenomenon

884
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,960
or something taking place there that has completely shaken my understanding on what reality really is.

885
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:47,960
You gotta see a UFO, dude.

886
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:48,960
Yeah, it's crazy.

887
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:58,960
As we move forward, I think that we could really uncover something that could make people like myself see the world differently.

888
00:40:58,960 --> 00:40:59,960
Tom, you all right?

889
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:01,960
Well, let's get you the heck out of here, man.

890
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:10,960
Well, as they say, we've opened up a can and we have just begun to scratch the surface of what's happening here.

891
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:16,960
For every answer that we're getting in our investigation, we're creating 10 more questions.

892
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:17,960
What in the world?

893
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:18,960
It's just dead.

894
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,960
And who knows what crazy and amazing things are in store.

895
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,960
Audio beacon is on. Let it rip.

896
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,960
Yeah, ain't that cool?

897
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,960
It's absolutely inconceivable.

898
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:32,960
Oh!

899
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,960
The amount of things that we experienced and saw and measured over the summer.

900
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,960
What this looks like, there's something a thousand feet long.

901
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:46,960
We have indisputable proof that there is an unusual phenomenon that is not a normal occurrence.

902
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,960
I'm excited about it.

903
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,960
I can't wait to go back and do more experiments.

904
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,960
I can't wait to see what is out there.

905
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,960
Skinwalker Ranch may hold secrets to the universe that we've yet to uncover.